Patrick Delaforce & Ken Baldry'The Delaforce Family History' - Chapter 38 |
The two mysteries relating to this wild and exotic family are as follows. Where did they come from? Where did they go? The search was fascinating but, in the end, fruitless. They are extremely well documented in the English National Bibliography of the last three Earls of Albermarle covering the period 1200-1260. They are very poorly documented in the period 1050 to 1200. Nothing more had turned up by 2003, since Patrick wrote this in 1980. In the period 1260-1340 when the species was officially extinct, they were alive and well and refusing to fade away. This chapter sets out to examine the early and the latter period. The period 1200-1260 is partly covered by chapters 36 and 37 when a GEOFFREY and three consecutive GUILLAUMES were De FORCES and Earls of Albermarle. The English and French historians are in many ways vague and haphazard about the early period, admitting that there was a Senior and a Cadet side of the family. What this probably means is that there were 'simultaneous' Earls using various titles - AUMALE, ALBERMARLE, occasionally HOLDERNESS, YORK, CRAVEN and DEVON. They were either younger brothers or cousins. The senior side of the family in the North of England - Yorkshire and Cumberland and the cadet side in the South - Devon, Somerset and perhaps WINTON/Winchester. The 'Complete Peerage' and the 'Extinct Peerage' of Great Britain use the same basic formula of the French historians. Very simply put they make but three or four points.
These 4 points span a period of about 170 years. With young men marrying at the age of 18-21 and young girls from about 15 onwards there may be eight or even nine generations in this 170 year period. Very detailed research from many sources has produced the facts for the chronological tables that follow. The Red Book of the Exchequer was helpful and the classics mentioned in Appendix I were invaluable. The VICTORIA County Histories produced vital clues in Yorkshire.
The chart below helps to clarify the genealogical table linking the POITOU/ANJOU branch of this family to that of the Conqueror. |
The Albemarle Connexion
Robert I Duke of Normandy (999 - 3/7/1035 Nicea,Turkey) see chapter49, tree 6 & (1023) Arlette (?1003 - ?) daughter of Fulbert of Falaise
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William de Forte (?1050 - ?) see chapter 40, tree 2 = Adeliza Countess d'Aumale (1053 - 1090)
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Malcolm III MacCRINAN King of SCOTS = Ingebiorg of ORKNEY |
Gospatrick I MacCRINAN of DUNBAR (1040? - 1072) = Aethelreda Princess of ENGLAND (1042? - ?) |
Ranulph I BAYEAUX of BESSIN = Alix of Normandy |
Ramfray de RUMILLY = ? |
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Duncan II MacCRINAN of SCOTS (1060? - 1094) = Ethelreda of DUNBAR (1065? - ?) |
Ranulph II le MESCHINES = ? |
Robert de RUMILLY (1072? Normandy - 1096?) = Muriel |
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etc. as the previous page |
Duncan = ? |
William de MESCHINES Lord of COPELAND (?1098 Normandy - ?1130) = Cecily de RUMILLY (1096? Normandy - 1153?) |
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Bardolf/Radulf de Forte (?1080 - ?) "Monarchi de FOUNTAINES", Talamont in Anjou = ? |
William FitzDUNCAN MacCRINAN Earl of MORAY (?1095 - ?1154) = Alice de ROMELLY (?1110 Scotland - ?1187) |
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William Le Gros (bfr 1115 - 8/1179) Count of Albemarle = Cicely Fitz-Duncan |
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Hawise of Aumale (?1159 - 11/3/1213-4) = 2. (aft 3/7/1190 Sicily) William I de FORTZ (? - 1195)
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The second part of this chapter concerns the end of the Albermarles. The last recorded Earl was WILLIAM de FORS, de FORTIBUS born about 1215, who married CHRISTINA de SULLYE, younger daughter of ALAN, Lord of Galloway and a direct descendant of William the Conqueror by Henry I & one of his mistresses. After several battles William eventually ruled a third of Galloway: he became Earl of Albermarle in 1242 on his father's death and paid 100 Livres to the throne for the privilege. In 1246 he signed the letter of remonstrance from the English nobles to Innocent IV. The love-hate relationship with Fountains abbey was finally concluded peacefully in the same year. Two years later William remarried Isabella de REDVERS, daughter of BALDWIN, Earl of DEVON, Lord of the Isle of Wight. He was sheriff of Cumberland and keeper of Carlisle Castle for many years; William like his father took part in the affairs of State. He was a member of the Mad parliament of Oxford in 1258 and was a member of the Kings council (cabinet) of Fifteen. He had a close relationship to King Henry III (see The English National Biography). He was frequently in France and died in Amiens in 1260. He was buried in Yorkshire. There were five children by ISABELLA and possibly some by his first marriage to CHRISTINA. He had a son called THOMAS, another called WILLIAM, a daughter called HAVOISE or HAWISE. The fact this his first son was called THOMAS may be significent - perhaps after the Earl of that name who fought at Hastings in 1066. Eventually another daughter AVELINA was left as sole heiress and the richest in the Kingdom. Avelina married King Henry Ill’s younger son Edmund, Earl of Lancaster but she died in 1274 without issue and was buried in Westminster Abbey. Her mother Isabella who lived until the end of 1293 was described as Countess of Devon, Albermarle and Lady of the Isle of Wight. To protect her vast estates she resorted to, and became famous for, her activities in the courts. Finally the succession was divided between the COURTENAY family, who became Earls of Devon from 1335 and King Edward I to whom she surrendered the Isle of Wight.' It is interesting to record what happened to the title after William's death in 1260. Thomas was his main heir and lived in Holderness in 1268.
Robert of Normandy’s wife Arlette was the daughter of Fulbert ‘The Tanner’ of Falaise & Duxia. The family continued for many hundreds of years mostly in Somerset and Devon under the names of FORCE, FURSE or FOSSE but after 1500 rarely, if ever, with a prefix of 'de' or 'de la'. |
But what about Robert, Duke of Normandy?
Who were his antecedents? Later, we shall see that the Delaforces probably do not originate in this line, as the trail through the Albemarles peters out in the West of England. Just to be on the safe side, we must trace back from Robert. Robert's father is in the line of boating bandits from Norway that wreaked such havoc on the coasts & up the rivers of Europe. However, the indication that the village of Fourcès is clearly part of our heritage lead us to search the lines of people who lived in that area. One of these was Bernard Plantevelue, the 'Hairyfoot' & a son of Gascony. We will find that his aunt is definitely one of our ancestors, hence our interest in him, see chapter 48. Robert of Normandy's maternal grandmother was Ermengarde of Anjou, which seemed to be getting warm. She married Conan, Duke of Brittany & was the daughter of Geoffrey Grisgonelle (greycoat), the Count of Anjou. His father was Fulk the Good & we reached this line by following Bernard Plantevelue's strategic marrying-off of his children to protect his wide domains in the South-West of France. Bernard is in fact, not only an ancestor of the three William de Fortz’ but his family also brings the dreadful Charlemagne into that family tree. We shall now embark on a long excursion, starting on the French Riviera... |
Bernard Plantevelue & the Art of protecting one's Patch
Daughter One was Adelaide, who married Acfrid of Carcassonne, a smart dynastic marriage, Bernard protecting his southern flank.
Adelaide (Adelinde) of CARCASSONNE (867? - ?) = Acfrid II Count of CARCASSONNE & RASEZ
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No joy for the searching Delaforces there! Daughter Two was Aba, used to protect his northern flank by marrying Geoffrey of Orleans. By marrying Fulk the Good, their daughter Gerberge brought the blood of Charlemagne into that family.
Aba (Ava) (892? - aft 942) = Geoffrey Vicomte de ORLEANS
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Bernard’s son, Pious William, took care of his Eastern side by marrying into Provence.
Engelberge was a descendant of Charlemagne.
William le PIEUX Count of ARLES, Duke of AQUITAINE (? - 918) = Engelberge of PROVENCE
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To continue the blood line, it is carried by Geoffrey, the grandson of Aba & Geoffrey of Orleans. From him, it follows the trees below to the familiar Albemarle trees in the previous chapter. Gerberge d'Anjou Grisgonelle was an ancestor of Henry III of England, as his father John married a Taillefer, see Appendix IV-6, tree 2.
Geoffrey I 'Grisgonelle' Count d'Anjou (938 - 21/7/987 siege of Marcon) = 2. Adelaide (Adelais) of VERMANDOIS (947? - 12/3/975)
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Ermangarde d' ANJOU (952 - 27/7/992) = Conan I Duke of Brittany
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Meanwhile, just out of interest, Aba & Geoffrey’s son Aubri became Count of Gatinais, to the North-East of Anjou. This line extends back into Brittany & eventually includes the Plantagenets, who became the rulers of England for several centuries & that odd but surprisingly persistent Kingdom of Jerusalem. |
Aubri Count de GATINAIS Vicomte d' ORLEANS (900? Gatinais - aft 966) = ?
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Foulques (Fulk) IV Rechin Count d' ANJOU (1043 Anjou - 1109)
= 2. Bertrade de MONTFORT (l' AMAURI) (1059 - 1117)
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Contact: Ken Baldry for more information, 17 Gerrard Road, Islington, London N1 8AY +44(0)20 7359 6294 but best to e-mail him |