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The Dreadful Charlemagne

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chapter 49

"By these wars of his he increased it" Einhard's biography of Charlemagne

The Dreadful Charlemagne

This monster usually receives a good press. It is hard to imagine why. Perhaps it is because he is seen as a winner & he certainly won many wars. He is seen at heralding the end of the Dark Ages, a concept we have seen above to be a false libel on a period of difficulty perhaps but one where we will find the foundations of civilisation preserved by many of our ancestors as best they could. Seen from the perspective of the average feudal villein, over who’s land his armies marched & ‘lived off’ at their expense, his ‘success’ would seem to have been bought at too high a price. We met him in Patrick’s chapter 48, losing his rearguard under the incompetent Roland after having sacked Pamplona, a valuable outpost of Western Civilisation in Navarre in holding off the Moors, when he should have been supporting it.

Right: Charlemagne's coronation

The career of Charlemagne is well documented, including his concubines, by one of whom, Regina, his bloodstained blood sHis legacy, the Holy Roman Empire, was none of those things, ‘Holy’ insofar as he massacred thousands of Saxons who preferred their old gods to the predatory & authoritarian Catholic church, ‘Roman’ because historically the term had a certain cachet still & ‘Empire’ - well, merely a killing ground for competing minor states, as the central authority, even under the Habsburgs, was never ‘central’ nor ‘authorityEnough of this rant - why are we going on about Charlemagne? Because he crops up in at least three separate geneations of our family.g to assert his authority through appointing local headmen such as Aznar Galindez. Charlemagne ultimately failed

The line of Charlemagne & a mistress Himiltrude leads via their daughter Alpais d'Aquitaine, who married Begue Count of Paris, to Lisiard, Count of Fezensac. This, however, did not connect with 'our' Fezensacs.

Three of his children by Hildegarde of Vintzau are Delaforce ancestors & Charlemagne's ancestors are very rich in many of ours already discussed above.

Sigibert le Boiteux (the Lame) King of Cologne

Sigibert le Boiteux (the Lame) King of Cologne (?453 - ?509) link to his father = ?NN

Chloderic the Parricide King of Cologne (?475 - ?509 murdered by agents of Clovis I) = dau of Chilperic King of Burgundy = Agrippine de Bourgogne

Mundéric Pretender of Austrasia (?500 - ?533 killed by Thierry I) = Arthemia de Genève (?515 - ?)

Gondolfus Bishop of Tongres aka Mummolin des Francs Ripuaires (?530 - 607) = (bfr 555) Palatina of Angouleme (?540 - ?)

Baudgise II Duke of Aquitaine (?569 - 582 Carthage murdered) = 'St' Oda aka Chrodoare the Sueve (abt 562 - 634) 2nd husband

Arnulf of Heristal Bishop of Metz (13/8/582 - 16/8/640 Remiremont) = Clothilde de Saxe (?583 - ?612)

See next tree below

Bodegise I Duke of Swabia (530? - 581?) brother of Gondolfus left = (562) 245Palatina de Troyes

'St' Oda = 1. Arnold of the Schelde Bishop of Metz (560 - ?)

Clothilde (Doda) de Saxe (?583 - ?612) see left

2. Baudgise II Duke of Aquitaine see left

(son) = ?NN

Blithilde of Cologne (?583 - ?603) = Ansbertus Gallo Senator of Schelde (?523 - ?570)

see right

Dode des Francs Ripuaires (?509 - ?) = Ansbertus Ferreolus of Schelde (?475 - ?)

Ansbertus Gallo Senator of Schelde (?523 - ?570) = Blithilde of Cologne (?583 - ?603)

Arnold of the Schelde Bishop of Metz (560 - ?) = 'St' Oda aka Chrodoare the Sueve (abt 562 - 634) 1st husband, see left

Clothilde de Saxe (?583 - ?612) = Arnulf of Heristal Bishop of Metz (13/8/582 - 16/8/640 Remiremont) see far left

Iduberga Itta (597 - 652) = Pepin of Landen Duke of Brabant (?591 - ?639)

St Begga (?615 - ?692) = Ansigisel
See next tree below

St. Arnulf of Heristal Bishop of Metz

Arnulf of Heristal Bishop of Metz (13/8/582 - 16/8/640 Remiremont) = Clothilde de Saxe (?583 - ?612)

Ansigisel Austrasian Palace Mayor (?615 - ?685) = St Begga (?615 - ?692) daughter of Pepin of Landen, St Arnulf's chum. Later a nun at Namur

Pepin 'the Fat' Count of Anjou & Orleans (645 - 16/12/714 Tours) = Alpaide (645 - 705)

Charles 'Martel' (676 - 22/10/741) = Rotrude of Austrasia (690 - 714)

See next family tree below

Childebrand Duc de Bougogne (?680 - 752) = Chrodelinde d'Austrasie (?685 - ?)

See this link

Martin de Laon (?655 - aft 696) = Bertrade l'Ancienne De Pruem (?675 - 721)

Charibert Comte de Laon 743-744 (bfr 696 - aft 747) = Bertrade de Baviere from chapter 47

Bertrade aux Grand Pieds (720 - 12/7/783 Choisy au Bac) = Pepin the Short

see next tree below

Clothilde Doda de Metz (650 - 692) = Theuderic III of Neustria (653 - 691)

Berthe de Neustrie (676 - 740) = Huoching de Souabe (685 - ?727)

Nébi de Souabe (?705 - ?) = Hereswintha of Saxony (?705 - ?)

Emma de Souabe (?735 - ?) = Gérold de Vintschgau (?725 - ?)

See this link below

Walchigise of Verdun (611 - ?) = Valtrude

Valtrude of Verdun = Eudes of Gascony

see 3rd tree in chapter 48

St Clodulphe Bishop of Metz (596 - 690! Metz) = ?

Kunza of Treves (?625 Treves - aft 650) = Warinus Count of the Franks (?620 Moselle - 677)

Leutwinus Bishop of Treves (?650 - 713) = ?

Rotrude of Austrasia (690 - 714) = Charles 'Martel' (676 - 22/10/741)

see next tree below

Charles 'Martel'

Charles 'Martel' (676 - 22/10/741) = 1. Rotrude of Austrasia (690 - 714)

Pepin 'the Short' (714 - 24/9/768 Saint Denis) =
Bertrada aux Grand Pieds of Laon (720 - 12/7/783 Choisy au Bac)
see above- the archetypal Mother Goose of fairy tales

Charlemagne (Kaiser Karl) (2/4/742 Ingelheim, Hesse - 28/1/813-4 Aachen) King of France 768 - 814

see next tree below

Carloman King of Austrasia fr 771 (?751 - 771) = ?

Cunégonde (?770 - 19/6/835)

See column far right

Gisela, Abbess of Chelles = ?

issue

Pepin died young

Aude (Aldana) de Francie = Thierry d'Autun (?735 - 793)

Guillaume 'le Saint' de Gellone Comte de Toulouse, Marquis de Septimanie (751 - 1/6/812 Gellone) = Cunégonde (?770 - 19/6/835)

Bernard de Septimanie see chapter 50

Charles 'Martel' (676 - 22/10/741) = 2. Swanhilde of Bavaria, daughter of Theodebert, Duke of Bavaria

issue

Charlemagne (Kaiser Karl)

Charlemagne (Kaiser Karl) (2/4/742 Ingelheim, Hesse - 28/1/814 Aachen) King of France 768 - 814
= 3. ( 30/4/771 Aachen) Hildegarde de Vintzau (?757 - 26/4/783)

Louis I 'the Pious' (778 - 840) = Irmengard (? - ?817)

Rotrude (800 - ?841) = (819) Gerard Count of Aquitaine (? - 25/6/841)

see appendix 10

Berthe de France (?779 - 14/1/823) = Angilbert de Ponthieu (?750 - 18/2/814) see chapter 50

Rotrude (8/774 Aachen - 6/6/810) = Roricon Count of Maine

Roricon Count of Maine (?790 -? = Blichilde

Woulgrin de Taillefer Count of Perigord (?835 Maine - 3/5/886 Angouleme) = Roselinde d'Agen

see chapter 50

others not known Delaforce ancestors

Charlemagne & (among other concubines) Regina or Reginopycrha (770 - ?)

Hugo 'l'Abbé' of st. Quentin (802 - 7/6/844) = ?

Petronella de France (825 - ?) = (1023) Tertulle Count of Anjou (821 - ?)

Ingelger Count of Anjou & Orleans (845 - ? Tours) = Aelinde (Rescinde) de Amboise (844 Tours - ?)

Fulk I 'Le Roux' Count of Anjou (870 - ?) = Roscille De Loches (874 - ?)

Fulk II 'Le Bon' Count of Anjou (909 - 11/11/958) = Gerberge du Maine (913 - 952)

see chapter 38

Drogo Bishop of Metz (802 - ?)

Charlemagne & Himiltrude

Alpais d'Aquitaine (?764 - aft 852) = (?803) Begue Count of Paris (?760 - 816)

Others

Lisiard Count of Fezensac (?abt 810 - ?) = Grimhild of Aquitaine

Gerard de Roussillon (? - 877) = 1. Berthe d'Auxerre

Ava de Roussillon = Widerich Count of Morvois

Gerard de Roussillon (? - 877) = 2. Berthe of Tours


As can be seen, this tree includes St Arnulf, whom we met in chapter 48 both as the grandfather of our Granny Valtrude & also associated with Pepin of Landen, the father of St Begga, in bullying King Clothaire II.

Family of Hildegarde de Vintzau

Gundovic (Gondioc) King of Burgundy (? - abt 470) = ?NN a Swabian (? - ?506)

Theodoric AMAL "the Great" King of Italy (454 Pannonia - 526) see link above & 1. ? of Moesia (463 -?)

Ellak King of the Huns (? - ?453) son of Attila (406 - 453) = ?NN

Gundobald King of Burgundy from abt 470 - 516 (? - 516) = ?Caretena

Theodoric II of the Ostrogoths (?484 - ?) = ?NN

Ardaric King of the Gepids = ?Acama a Hun

Theodoric AMAL "the Great" King of Italy (454 Pannonia - 526) see left = Audofledis (469 - 30/4/535 assassinated) sister of Clovis the Great

Sigusmund King of the Burgundians 516-524 = Theodegotho

Elemund King of the Gepids (? - ?491) = ?NN

Wacho King of the Lombards = Austrigusa of the Gepids (? - ?504)

Waldrada of Lombardy = 1. Theodebald King of Austrasia 547 (?534 - 555)
2. Garibald I Duke of Bavaria (?525 - ?590)


The family of Waltrada of Lombardy takes us back, not only to the Gothic lines, both Balt & Amal but introduces Attila the Hun. Gundovic is probably the grandson of Athaulf, see chapter 43. Garibald I was an Agilolfing, son of Agivald & grandson of Agilulf Duke of Bavaria (490 - 537) who married a daughter of Godogisel, King of Geneva, the brother of Gundobald in the tree above.


Waldrada of Lombardy = 1. Theodebald King of Austrasia 547 (?534 - 555)

= 2. (562 Bavaria) Garibald I Duke of Bavaria (?525 - ?590)

Gertrude = Carloman Duke of Bavaria

Tassilo I Duke of Bavaria fr 591 (? - 609) = ?

Garibald II Duke of Bavaria 610 - 640 = Geila de Fioul

Theodon of Bavaria = Gleisnod

Theodon King of Bavaria (?640 -?717) = Folchaide von Salzburg

Agilulf de Vintschgau (?670 - ?726) = ?NN

Gérold de Vintzau (?725 - ?) = Emma de Souabe (?735 - ?) dau. of Nébi de Souabe

Hildegarde de Vintzau (?757 - 26/4/783) = (30/4/771 Aachen) Charlemagne

Romilde = Gisulf II de Frioul (?550 - 611)

Geila de Fioul = Garibald II Duke of Bavaria 610 - 640 see left


Waltrada of Lombardy first husband was Garibald's brother Theodebald King of Austrasia 547 (?534 - 555). They were the sons of Theodebert of Bavaria King of Austrasia 533-547 (505 - 548) and Deuteria. She was the daughter of the Roman Tonnance III & Industria of Reims, who we have met in the ancestors of Valtrude of Verdun. Waltrada's daughter Romilde married Gisulf de Frioul (?550 - 611), son of Grasulf de Frioul (?525 - 589). Geila de Frioul in the tree above was the daughter of Gisulf & Romilde.

Folchaide of Salzburg was the daughter of Robert of Salzburg & Theodora. Robert was the son of Erlebert. Presumably, they were Franks.

Emma the Schwabe was of Ansigisel's family above.


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